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July 3rd, 2003


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11:58 pm - Where do you fit in?
The wonderful lj_nifty is ever full of all sorts of cute LiveJournal tricks, most of which are indexed at the rather ungainly-named LJRelatedBP. (Hmm - that grammar looks incorrect but I can't work out quite how.)

Anyway, one of the most interesting things it has brought to my attention recently is the LiveJournal Browser which renders your LiveJournal friends list as a dynamic graph. What this means is, as they say, "It shows your friends, and any connections between those friends, and allows you to navigate from user to user, browsing the LiveJournal universe." In short, it produces a pretty picture with all your friends on and lines between the friends listed to show how they all relate to each other. You can play around with the graph, trying to twang people into different positions and seeing how it affects things and so on. It's great fun, particularly when you've got about 30+ Friends in there, some of whom are linked. It gives you a quick visual indication of how people relate to each other and how people do, after all, fit in.

The pictures themselves are a bit large, so best to put them behind a lj-cut:

This is the overall picture. It splits into two halves; draw a line approximately between fandomdirectory in the SW and congrats_heidi in the NE, very slightly bowing it towards the convex rather than the concave. Everyone to the NW of that line is reaonably identifiably in the Harry Potter fandom; broadly, people to the SE of that line are not.

Taking a closer look at the big Harry Potter fandom bundle in the centre north-west:

From this we can conclude:

1) there are people who are identifiably at the centre of the mess, for good reason, and people who are identifiably less central.

2) there is a fairly identifiable Western Slash Blob, which is approximately a circle with centre dinahrae and extending out as far as semperoccultus, black_dog, mortari and nystana. If you find yourself inside the Slash Blob and yet not particularly associated with slash then perhaps you should be.

3) there is a fairly identifiable t00bage triangle. Draw a line between oddree and lasultrix, a line between lasultrix and me and a line between oddree and me. Almost everyone inside this triangle is a regular t00b, plus dancingrain and expetesso, who are telephonic t00bs by proxy. (zorac, has your bill arrived yet?)

4) there is a fairly identifiable Nimbus trapezoid, which can be drawn from vanityfair to gwendolyngrace to moonstruck4rjl to erinmiran back to vanityfair. The inhabitants within are generally Nimbus usual suspects. Unfortunately mapping out the inhabitants of the rooms of doom produces no particular shape.

5) there is a Teesside Harry Potter fandom who are way off to the East of this graph: frufoo, miyake_is_mine and phoenixdru.

Taking a closer look at the big "rest of the world" to the South:

From this we can conclude:

A) there is a south-western sci-fi fandom oval.

B) the south-western sci-fi fandom oval is almost inseparable from the south-western UK game show fan oval, which cannot occur by accident.

C) the south-western UK game show fan oval is not particularly well-connected to the fairly self-contained south central game show fan circle, with 2ndavemusic, brakusjs, tomalhe and gsp_column defining its boundaries. I also note that gaby723 and jumbach have been assimilated into the collective.

D) there is a cohesive and tight south-eastern Oxford University RPGSoc circle with venta at its centre.

E) there is a less cohesive ESE oxgeek blob. Its lack of cohesion is caused by wimborne and addedentry being pulled towards the direction of the sci-fi fandom oval and chrisvenus being the go-between between the oxgeeks and the RPGSoc blob.

What does this mean? Probably bugger all in practice, but it's still good fun.

What else can we do with this big silly picture? A couple of days ago, vanityfair wrote "I would like to introduce this concept to all of you. I would love it if everybody introduced one of the people on their friends list to someone else on their friends list. Share the love." Happy to help and we can try to introduce people from various blobs to one another.

j4, mhw: Kay, Janet; Janet, Kay.
dr4b, songmonk: Mason, Deanna; Deanna, Mason.
the_maenad, tall_man: Tyler, Sandra; Sandra, Tyler.

Eeh, this is harder than I thought it would be. Let's stick with three pairs for now and see if any of them work.

Let's steal another viral concept - this one from hawkida, who got it from mstevens: if you would be so kind, please name something you think I'd like doing, but which I don't actually do, to the best of your knowledge.

Preferably something specific with no prior skill requirements.


Answers involving sex 'n' drugs 'n' rock'n'roll should be taken as read.
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From:sincelastjuly
Date:July 3rd, 2003 04:14 pm (UTC)
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Hee, graph = cool.
You should kayak.
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From:jiggery_pokery
Date:July 3rd, 2003 05:46 pm (UTC)
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Hmm, not a bad thought; I'm not at all a strong swimmer and have relatively poor arm strength, but with life jackets, that might not be a problem. What's the difference between canoeing and kayaking, please? Would you be thinking of river kayaking or ocean kayaking, for that matter? There is an artificial white water course about five miles away from here at the Tees Barrage which is supposedly "fantastic".

Not a bad thought at all!
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From:sincelastjuly
Date:July 3rd, 2003 06:41 pm (UTC)
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Canoeing is with two people minimum in a big Fuck Off boat, kayaking is a one-person job in a little, aerodynamic thing. ;) And I was thinking river. Just wear a lifejacket, and your arms will get built up if you do it, LOL.
This meme was a really good idea. I might steal it.
From:songmonk
Date:July 3rd, 2003 04:26 pm (UTC)
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Are those random introductions? Or not?

I notice that Deanna's most recent post involved DDR. I haven't played DDR in quite some time!
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From:jiggery_pokery
Date:July 3rd, 2003 05:34 pm (UTC)
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Not random; I just think the (three sets of) two of you would enjoy each others' interests, posts and ways of thinking.

You're all honour-bound to continue the chain now, of course, by each making at least one more recommendation between friends who do not know each other. After all, it's a viral concept and hence infectious; accordingly, the six of you have been infected without your consent.
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From:leiabelle
Date:July 3rd, 2003 05:06 pm (UTC)
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What a tangled web we weave, eh? :P

For some reason I can picture you playing ping-pong!
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From:jiggery_pokery
Date:July 3rd, 2003 05:40 pm (UTC)
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No practice of deceipt going on, though, I hope. :-)

Ping-pong: well, I've tried that in the past, but never at all seriously and not within the past fifteen years. (Even then, I only played about three or four games, which was hardly enough for me to learn to serve and to hit a vaguely appropriately-directed return.) I like fast reaction games in principle and this theoretically ought to have less distance involved than most, so it's an idea with considerable merit.

I knew two guys who were pretty serious about ping-pong. One of them had a vast stamp collection believed to be worth a few hundred thousand pounds, played the horses every workday lunchtime for small stakes in a fiendishly regimented fashion and had several similarities to me in terms of fitness or otherwise and in terms of still living with his mother to a considerable age. The other was most memorable for having a very high voice for his age. I think he went off to Loughborough to study sport science...

*Googles, finds nothing obviously matching either*
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From:ericklendl
Date:July 3rd, 2003 05:16 pm (UTC)
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I like my position in that graph. I'm neither fish nor fowl. Or possibly I'm fish and fowl...not sure which.

Let's steal another viral concept - this one from hawkida, who got it from mstevens: if you would be so kind, please name something you think I'd like doing, but which I don't actually do, to the best of your knowledge.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if running a fantasy share portfolio for a while held some appeal for you.
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From:jiggery_pokery
Date:July 3rd, 2003 05:52 pm (UTC)
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You can be a steenkin' kipper if you want to, mate :-)

Your position probably arises from being crossover between the Harry Potter fandom crowd - fully five of them - and, well, yes, bits of lots of other things.

Fantasy Share Portfolio: definitely along the right lines. When The Times came out with their game for its first year, I decided it was worth a £5 punt; what I did was invested as much of my portfolio as I could (using whatever techniques I could to make that 99.999% instead of 99.99%) into the cheapest penny share in the game on the grounds that if that penny share went up from 1¼p to 1½p then I would stand to win one of the weekly £500 prizes for "biggest percentage improvement that week".

Didn't work.
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From:tall_man
Date:July 3rd, 2003 11:53 pm (UTC)
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Hmm, I like the graph, but it appears to not have all the connections done fully -- for example, I see no connection between myself and ixchelmala, despite the fact that I've had her friended for roughly a week or two now.

And you should try rock climbing, especially if you're anywhere near a climbing wall (IIRC, there's one or two in Orlando...). Good exercise, mentally and physically.
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From:the_maenad
Date:July 4th, 2003 04:52 am (UTC)
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Um. Hi. Um. I'm Sandra. Um. Not very good at this, am I? Um. Sorry. Um.
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From:tall_man
Date:July 4th, 2003 07:17 am (UTC)
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Hello. I'm Tyler. Pleased to meet you.

And nothing to be sorry about -- getting introduced to a total stranger who's 5 timezones away is almost always awkward :-)
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From:jiggery_pokery
Date:July 4th, 2003 07:26 pm (UTC)
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I volunteered to ascend a fairly basic climbing wall once as part of a team-based competition on a week activity course in the spring of... '96, I think. I found it very difficult going due to a disparity in the old strength-mass department, but remember that I rather enjoyed my small dose of it. Good thinking.

Other people have spotted links that it's missing, too. Maybe it'll catch 'em all, as they say, in version 0.6.
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From:glissando
Date:July 4th, 2003 01:20 am (UTC)
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Where do I come into all this, I can't see me anywhere! Ah well, perhaps that is symbolic, or something. I think that you would enjoy (as I've mentioned before) reading Schott's Original Miscellany, because I was reading it last night, and it's the kind of thing that I'm sure that you'd enjoy. I guess the only prior skills requirement is being literate, but that's hardly a problem is it?
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From:jiggery_pokery
Date:July 4th, 2003 03:35 pm (UTC)
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On the top graph you're pretty central in the north-east, which is a fine sort of place to be. :-) You seem to be being pulled by ari_o from the HP fandom crowd and karen2205 from the Oxford crowd. This ends up putting you half-way between the Teesside HP crowd and the poker players. Watch your step! ;-)
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From:j4
Date:July 4th, 2003 03:28 am (UTC)
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j4, mhw: Kay, Janet; Janet, Kay.

I've met Kay! Haven't I? mhw? Do you remember me? Or are you a different Kay? Confused now.
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From:jiggery_pokery
Date:July 4th, 2003 07:29 pm (UTC)
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Well, I'm not sure if I ever knew that you knew each other, if indeed you do know each other. If I didn't know you knew each other and you do know each other then I claim a point for knowing that you two should get to know each other. If I ever knew that you two knew each other, then obviously suggesting that you should know each other is null because it offers know knew information.
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From:bopeepsheep
Date:July 4th, 2003 06:14 am (UTC)
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Fascinating graph although I'm unsure why it hasn't connected me with imc given the circumstances, and I don't seem to be linked to people like j4. Doing it for myself was interesting since I have a self-contained 'clump' of about 30 users who are all connected to each other and no one else (bar me) as well as the interlinked ox-cam bunch, and one of the people on your graph (and mine) produced a fascinating graph where three usernames were vying for central south position to the point where they appeared to be fighting (the image wouldn't settle no matter how much we pulled it around)! Weird, given RL issues.
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From:jiggery_pokery
Date:July 4th, 2003 04:03 pm (UTC)
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I think you are being most unfair in requiring it to work correctly as well as look pretty. Use or ornament seems to be the traditional role - often neither, very seldom both. I have punished the applet by forcing it to look at queerasjohn's graph, which slowed it to a crawl, then cassieclaire's graph which knocked it almost stone dead.

I think my favourite graph is that of the_maenad, whose friends tend to break into three clusters and so the overall effect is akin to the Manx tricorn. However, these are not stable clusters and so a few people keep swapping from one to another and back again on a regular basis. I'm saying nothing about societal consequences.
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From:imc
Date:July 4th, 2003 02:48 pm (UTC)
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Apropos of nothing, I would just like to point out that this page is hell to read with all those wide images causing the text to expand to about 2.5 times the width of my browser.

BTW, I agree about the missing links. I don't seem to have any lines despite the fact that most of my LJ friends are on there.


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