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08:22 pm - Chris Dickson is the third
I'm sorry, that should read "Chris Dickson is ill". The MSO was busier, more successful and more fun than I had feared it would be, but while I was there, I picked up some sort of viral infection. I have had a very sore throat for the last 40 hours or so and a malfunctioning nose, which has more recently developed into a headache giving me an extremely restricted attention span, so this will be a very short post. Am sleeping lots, drinking lots of orange juice and had some chicken soup a while back. Will eat chocolate, too. (More prosaically, am taking paracetamol-plus-codeine, and am wondering whether you can safely mix it with ibuprofen.)

Current fascination: World cities. Brussels ahead of Amsterdam? Really?

Latest thing going around LJ is the "snaps cup" meme - post your name and people anonymously compliment you, because random compliments are good. The question I ask - anonymous replies, please, with IPs unlogged - which compliment or compliments would you like to have received as a result of this but have not yet done? Be as vain and as insecure as you feel comfortable with being behind the veil of anonymity.
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From:applez
Date:August 30th, 2005 11:32 pm (UTC)

Shanghai/Beijing

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Sure...Shanghai hasn't made its global corporate mark just yet*; and Beijing does have a lot more history going for it, not to mention the Forbidden City.

*My definition: when an indigenous Shanghai business, with the name Shanghai in it, taking over major Western markets...or some similar cultural revelation regarding an economically influential success.
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From:jvvw
Date:August 31st, 2005 09:08 am (UTC)

Re: Shanghai/Beijing

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But I thought the rankings were based not on history or culture but on producing high-level type services? I'm surprised if Shanghai doesn't beat Beijing per capita on those stakes, but Beijing's size might push it ahead. I just think of Shanghai as being far more cosmopolitan a place.
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From:undyingking
Date:August 31st, 2005 09:46 am (UTC)

Re: Shanghai/Beijing

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Apparently the two are equal for banking, accounting and legal, but Beijing outscores Shanghai in advertising. *shrug*
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From:jvvw
Date:August 31st, 2005 11:26 am (UTC)

Re: Shanghai/Beijing

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My knowledge of the Chinese advertising industry obviously let me down :-)

(You're not the Mo who used to share a house with Liz and Geoffrey are you by any chance?)
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From:undyingking
Date:August 31st, 2005 11:38 am (UTC)

Re: Shanghai/Beijing

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I am! -- and peering at your photo, it looks like you're the Juliette who used to visit said house? Small world! -- how are you, what are you up to these days?
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From:jvvw
Date:August 31st, 2005 02:52 pm (UTC)

Re: Shanghai/Beijing

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I'm fine, working in Guildford producing interactive teaching type stuff for the maths, physics and computing departments at the university, and still playing lots of board games. How about you?
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From:undyingking
Date:August 31st, 2005 03:35 pm (UTC)

Re: Shanghai/Beijing

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Living in Ipswich writing murder mystery party games (of all strange things), and not doing as much boardgaming as I used to... but generally life is good, glad to hear yours is too!
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From:jvvw
Date:September 12th, 2005 09:35 pm (UTC)

Re: Shanghai/Beijing

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Just realised that I didn't reply to this. That sounds exciting! I think of Ipswich as being a place covered in snow as the only time I've been there, it was.
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From:undyingking
Date:September 15th, 2005 02:40 pm (UTC)

Re: Shanghai/Beijing

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It's not like that all the time, thank goodness! -- or our tomatoes'd never get much of a start.
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From:applez
Date:August 31st, 2005 02:16 pm (UTC)

Re: Shanghai/Beijing

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Cosmopolitan ... roughly equal I think in terms of international business offices and foreign residents. The other part of the China story that may not be getting much play is how often services of electricity and water are disrupted, with Beijing likely to ensure better urban services of those. Likewise, air pollution has to play a role in pulling down the amenity value of the cities, though I imagine it should hit Beijing slightly worse due to the loess winds.
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From:jvvw
Date:August 31st, 2005 03:14 pm (UTC)

Re: Shanghai/Beijing

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I certainly remember Beijing as having much worse pollution.

Maybe Shanghai is just more western. People speak more English and there are more Western chains operating there. It certainly feels like a richer city withs its shops and posh cocktail bars and skyscrapers, and things like public transport are better.

But I've spent more time in Shanghai than in Beijing so maybe I just haven't seen the more upmarket parts of Beijing. Also they've probably both changed significantly the last few years, especially Beijing with the Olympics.

It seems weird comparing them though, they're such different cities.
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From:undyingking
Date:August 31st, 2005 09:39 am (UTC)

Re: Shanghai/Beijing

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I guess you don't count HSBC as 'indigenous' ;-)
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From:applez
Date:August 31st, 2005 02:17 pm (UTC)

Re: Shanghai/Beijing

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Interesting question. Depends at what point you want to declare it 'Chinese' when PRC yuan dominated their business portfolio.

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